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Tuesday March 11, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Ethanol Fuels
category: Ethanol Fuels


Some of you have probably noticed how more and more gas stations are selling fuel that may contain up to ten percent ethanol. There's usually a small sticker on the gas pump but it's so small that sometimes you don't even notice it. The ethanol is being added because of a federal mandate to increase ethanol production and decrease our dependence on foreign oil. Ethanol in this country is usually produced from corn.

Ethanol contains less energy than gasoline so it gives you fewer miles per gallon. I've heard from some viewers who notice a drop in mileage with the ethanol blend. Some tell me the performance of their vehicle drops off. The effect on performance is sometimes subtle, but one viewer told me his early 80's motorcycle is practically useless when he buys the ten percent ethanol fuel because of rough idling and stalling.

I would be interested in hearing from some of you about your experience with the ethanol fuels, both the ten percent blend and the E85 version that is 85 percent ethanol and 15 percent gasoline. Any gasoline vehicle can burn the ten percent blend but only purpose built "flex-fuel" vehicles can use the E85. Only a handful of stations in our area even carry the E85. The mileage on a flex-fuel pickup truck I recently reviewed dropped from about 19 miles-per-gallon on regular gasoline to about 14 miles-per-
gallon when I filled up with E85. By the way the only reason that E85 is priced about the same as regular gas is because tax dollars are used to subsidize each gallon sold.

Because of demand for ethanol the price of corn is up and many foods that contain corn or corn products cost more. Growing more corn also creates more water pollution because of increased fertilizer and pesticide use. There is no doubt that ethanol can reduce our dependence on foreign oil but at what cost to consumers?

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paul K
Over one tank of fuel in my 2002 ford ranger down from 20 miles to gal to 18 miles per gallon now consider - 10 gals + 1 gal ethanol - 198 miles cost to me at 3.25 /gal -- 35.75 to gals no ethanol = 200 miles at a cost of 32.50 since the extra cost of the ethanol - is pay for by me at regulaor fuel prices and My taxes support this crap== we will never get rid of it Hell - it means Jobs -- And me a consumer pay for it all -- this is a match made in politican heven

Mr. JayZ
Dennis, is there a list or anything of gas stations in PA or our area that use or dont use ethanol?

Brian - Harrisburg
Dennis,

I notice a lower MPG on my vehicle when using the Ethanol 10% blend. Several weeks ago, my local Giant gas station added the "may contain 10% Ethanol" stickers to their pumps. Today, I filled up there again and noticed that the stickers are now gone. Has Giant switched back to non-Ethanol fuel? I certainly hope so, as I try my best to avoid stations mixing Ethanol in their gas. Any insight you could provide would be greatly appreciated!

Also, thanks for covering this topic. Almost all of the blame for high gas prices goes to OPEC and the oil companies, but look at what our government is doing. For starters, they subsidize Ethanol with our tax dollars (which we comes out of our pocket). Then, they force an Ethanol mix on us, which costs the same as non-Ethanol gas, but requires us to use more as it results in lower gas mileage. In addition to the taxes they already charge per gallon, our own government is as much of a culprit for the high gas prices as the gas companies and OPEC themselves.

Brian

Dave
You would think that since it lowers the mpg the price would be lower.

schlep1967, Lewisberry
Dennis, I have to disagree with your last sentence. Ethanol is increasing our dependence on foreign oil. In the truck you tested you went from 19 mpg to 15 mpg. This equates to a 21 percent loss in mpg to save 15 percent in gas. Using the same numbers if we assume the truck has a 20 gallon tank with straight gas you can travel 380 miles(20 x 19). Using E85 you are essentially filling the tank with 17 gallons of gas and 3 gallons of ethanol and you could go 300 miles(20 x 15). To make up that 80 mile difference at 15 mpg you need to buy an additional 4.53 gallons of gas and .8 gallon of ethanol. So to go the same distance on E85 as 20 gallons of straight gas you need 21.53 gallons of gas plus 3.8 gallons of ethanol. Therefore increasing our dependence on foreign oil while also increasing our cost for groceries. Somebody needs to show some numbers to our Federal Government and get this mandate stopped before oil goes any higher due to OUR increased demand.

rhankwhite
I drive 160 miles every day from Palmyra to Lewistown and back. Hess started using the 10% Ethanol and I have indeed noticed a drop in gas mileage, about 6% in fact. I drive conservatively since I use so much gas and get better gas mileage in the 55-60 mph range. I switched to Shell gas which does not have the Ethanol blend and my gas mileage has gone back to normal, about 34-35 mpg in my Pontiac Vibe. I can understand the logic behind the blend, but if you lose gas mileage, it really is not helping because you will use more fuel in the long run, offsetting the savings of the 10% blend.

Mike, Lebanon
Dennis, my outboard motor on my bassboat(200HP, Mercury Optimax) will run E85, I'm heading down to Lake Anna, VA the first week of May and will fill up with E85 to see how it is, and let you know.

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